tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post6210326555173591511..comments2023-10-03T12:20:53.726-04:00Comments on ¡Cecilieaux!: Who is an Anglo?Cecilio Moraleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05283375962527765787noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-54400789102226424042011-07-07T11:39:42.441-04:002011-07-07T11:39:42.441-04:00Kaz, thank you for your comments. This particular ...Kaz, thank you for your comments. This particular post continues to draw interest from the remotest corners of the globe, suggesting that your frustrations are widespread.Cecilio Moraleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05283375962527765787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-19625245996228590412011-07-06T06:50:53.910-04:002011-07-06T06:50:53.910-04:00Correction: Like most blacks in US, I'm not Af...Correction: Like most blacks in US, I'm not African-American like someone say Obama because my roots in America are too deep ( I am a descendant of African slaves and Cherokee), not because I'm technically multiracial.Kaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-88221294990031206572011-07-05T21:17:06.560-04:002011-07-05T21:17:06.560-04:00I came across this post when I was googling "...I came across this post when I was googling "Who is Anglo". Obviously, I am very frustrated with these racial labeling, and it should come to no surprise that in spite of my appearance of someone of African descent doesn't make me purely African American like some say Barak Obama, a true African-American (with a hyphen, two nouns conjoined and not adj-noun), since I have other origins as well as any average American. <br /> But my frustration really started with this Latin/Latino/Hispanic labeling. Hispanics will call non-Hispanic whites "Anglo". Who's Hispanic. Technically,it's not a race. In fact looking at history, it's no different from United States, which it's safe to say that the New World itself is a melting pot and not just USA. And with that, I am force to come to this conclusion: seeing that not all Hispanics are directly of Spanish descent (in fact Welsh alone make up the population in Argentina), and can be call Hispanics as the Spaniards, the true Hispanics, then why can't I, an American born and bred just my fore fathers before in last 15 plus generations, and native English-speaker can't be call Anglo too, culturally speaking, even if I have more Spanish blood than what any Hispanic like to brag and I am more than likely don't have Anglo ancestry at all, just Celtic and African; besides, America was initiated by Queen Elizabeth herself, an English ruler. Not sure if she's truly biologically Anglo though...Kazhttp://nomadlangnotes.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-24866216985117522702007-08-16T18:22:00.000-04:002007-08-16T18:22:00.000-04:00Now, Chani, I hate to challenge you, but if we're ...Now, Chani, I hate to challenge you, but if we're all just people, why is Thailand so dear to you? We're not all just people. We are part of societies and cultures. We can pick and choose in which one we will try to find a place, as you have done; or we can elect -- or let fate elect -- the one into which we were born.Cecilio Moraleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05283375962527765787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-73543873959855013342007-08-16T16:28:00.000-04:002007-08-16T16:28:00.000-04:00I know I just don't bother with all this ID taggin...I know I just don't bother with all this ID tagging of races and ethnicities any more either. <BR/><BR/>Who has the time for that kind of mess?<BR/><BR/>We're all just people.thailandchanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171731740204067889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-82462752027083694272007-08-16T07:13:00.001-04:002007-08-16T07:13:00.001-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-71963528416629490962007-08-16T07:13:00.000-04:002007-08-16T07:13:00.000-04:00I've never seen Hispanics lumped as blacks. The Ce...I've never seen Hispanics lumped as blacks. The Census notes, quite accurately, that Hispanics can be of any "race" (meaning "white," "black" or Asian, not to mention American Indian).Cecilio Moraleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05283375962527765787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-51842205443221048432007-08-16T06:03:00.000-04:002007-08-16T06:03:00.000-04:00" "caucasian" comes from the [ ]Caucasian mounta..." "caucasian" comes from the [ ]Caucasian mountains..."<BR/><BR/>Don't most people (adults) know that?<BR/><BR/>And of "white" don't most realize that it is a very colorful and broad brush? Every time my freckles appear...almost to a point of covering any white and connect them with other of my features I can't help but think of my connectedness to another continent.<BR/><BR/>Cecilieaux, in turn, I find the late custom to frequently lump "hispanic" into a "black" race inaccurate, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-31588850148550046202007-08-16T04:57:00.000-04:002007-08-16T04:57:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-23864824752348458942007-08-16T04:21:00.000-04:002007-08-16T04:21:00.000-04:00Sigh! I meant to include people who count themselv...Sigh! I meant to include people who count themselves as "white" (therefore somehow ending up on the "wrong" side of these kinds of discussions). And I forgot to include the English!<BR/><BR/>More on them coming up.Cecilio Moraleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05283375962527765787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-60302193540585099752007-08-15T22:12:00.000-04:002007-08-15T22:12:00.000-04:00Does anyone really pay much attention to who is or...Does anyone really pay much attention to who is or might be an anglo any more? I have a smidgeon of anglo in me but figure my ancestors came out of Victorian England because they couldn't bear living there any longer. Perhaps much like the majority of emigres to America. (How many of the very, very wealthy leave homelands?)<BR/><BR/>Yes, I've used & heard reference to WASP but mostly it is a riff of conversation that merely gives some color. To me anglo is as alien as gringo or goy or gentile.<BR/><BR/>Genealogy interests me, as well, and I've dug in all the countries of my ancestry and glean only that the people of my origins were just like my family today. (Btw, the census forms for my Scots ancestors list them as "Scotch"...fine with me!)<BR/><BR/>There are a fair amount of what could be designated as anglos from long ago around me but really it is a matter of public indifference. In fact, I come across a few just recently with Mayflower & DAR ties. Their stories are just stories.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Yes, I am ashamed of the utter discriminatory and cruel practices of the past associated with anglo/wasps,etc. but frankly I have encountered more instances of discrimination and cruelty at the hands of certain Irish Americans (I'm some of that, too, readers) that make me Really ashamed and these were from only the past century.<BR/><BR/>How do we "face up to [ ] the vast conspiracy of silence concerning the horrific pain, in the denial of various national and cultural identities, of past injustices, in plain human suffering that so many "white" Americans have undergone."?<BR/><BR/>All I can imagine that I can do is to not repeat the ignorance and arrogance of the past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com