tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post6548015050458393109..comments2023-10-03T12:20:53.726-04:00Comments on ¡Cecilieaux!: Romance as EstrangementCecilio Moraleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05283375962527765787noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-10057137571522945022009-10-30T12:58:53.420-04:002009-10-30T12:58:53.420-04:00My 2 cents reply. There is a difference between se...My 2 cents reply. There is a difference between sex and love. Of course both of them occur at different levels in our interactions with the chosen partner. Sexual things come more from our animal behaviour or inprint; and love comes from our more human social and inner/outer feelings enhanced by time, social environment, feed back and multiple other things. Intimacy occurs on the way to love not after.<br /> We are not doomed but that does not mean we might not fail again. Everybody is different but dooming is stop trying whatever it is. We might not reach the golden globe but stay happy if we keep moving. In the end sex vanishes and love remains..<br />Carloschichovipnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-43592324424048821012009-10-29T17:13:46.769-04:002009-10-29T17:13:46.769-04:00Speak for yourself, C. That may be your experience...Speak for yourself, C. That may be your experience, but I agree with most of the correpondents--real love is a committment; make a conscious decision to trust, to search, to work to grow, to laugh and cry, to care for and be cared for together. The idea that we become less intimate becasue "errors are made" is facil. It's dealing with differences that make for growth--and there is no better way to grow. That's what relationships are for-- to help make us more complete human beings.<br /><br />So may I suggest that you that you stop waxing poetic about the about this all the time (more than 20 blogs in Shavings and Antipodes , counting sex, love, etc), move beyond obsessing about the superficial and letting us hear from you about real love.Hendaquenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-15376595907148730922009-10-29T07:05:34.094-04:002009-10-29T07:05:34.094-04:00Oh Cecilieaux, that was such a good and funny post...Oh Cecilieaux, that was such a good and funny post. I just loved it, especially the end - "We are doomed"!<br /><br />Fantastic! Thanks.Andyhttp://www.vandainmilan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-72842184013134696302009-10-28T20:47:17.730-04:002009-10-28T20:47:17.730-04:00Geri's comment brings to mind Stendahl's &...Geri's comment brings to mind Stendahl's "On Love" which describes the crystallization period brilliantly, more than any other treatise I have ever read on the subject of love.<br /><br />I think that more than choosing to love, choosing to CONTINUE to love even after first blush has revealed a flesh and blood entity like ourselves, with warts and all as they say, is the true endurance test.heartinsanfranciscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07535397382991383931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-44710513231883320552009-10-28T19:35:02.550-04:002009-10-28T19:35:02.550-04:00Your problem is lexical: you don't become &quo...Your problem is lexical: you don't become "intimate" because you copulate with another naked body (even a greek statue - or maybe because you think so) six or seven times on a row every night for a few weeks or a few months. Even if you dare share some "confidential "details pretty embarrassing about yourself. No. Delusion.<br /> <br />Intimacy is quite another ineffable and subtle story. This is something that nothing can corrupt nor replace, because it has been built carefully and however unwillingly (here I disagree with thailandchani and geri) during years of struggle and shared life, and shared history. The fundations are right and solid, because they passed the.test of longlasthood and trust, in spite of all the angers and hatreds and disappointments and exasperations.<br /> <br />Any goldish god or goddess shining on the top of a hill can bring the same optical illusion, thousands times, millions times. Shining, fire, warmth, hotness, yes, of course, but, like a straw fire:pfft! nothing left after a short while. So good, yes, but so short. and, overall, such a delusion, all the contrary of the required authenticity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-78950542792392436222009-10-28T18:16:50.106-04:002009-10-28T18:16:50.106-04:00I agree with the person who wrote that "Love ...I agree with the person who wrote that "Love is a chosen behavior." At<br />some point, after the dopamine drenched period of enchantment, love<br />becomes an active verb, an act of<br />volition. <br /><br />Either that, or, having read this<br />quote from the Times, I would feel<br />like pulling the covers over my head<br />and never emerging. Also,<br />the most wonderful book I've ever<br />read about love, which includes<br />psychological analysis, philosophy,<br />science, literary references and<br />everyday examples is: "Dreams of Love and Fateful Encounters,"by Ethel S. Person, M.D. I think<br />the infatuation period is "idealization" of the loved object,<br />but after that stage, there should be, I hope, an ebb and flow of love<br />that can survive the realization that the beloved is just a flesh and blood person, after all.<br /><br />GeriAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-65548948710554105042009-10-28T16:22:03.572-04:002009-10-28T16:22:03.572-04:00This is very interesting when it comes to stranger...This is very interesting when it comes to strangers. I was just blogging about strangers and connected to your blog through another blog.<br /><br />Check out my blog and see what you think.Tom Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694425811308686944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18171692.post-77793275310260988702009-10-28T11:58:49.406-04:002009-10-28T11:58:49.406-04:00Well, yes. I do agree. :)
I believe love is a ch...Well, yes. I do agree. :) <br /><br />I believe love is a chosen behavior - and it is not something we "fall in". It's a conscious decision. <br /><br />Romance is overrated, in my opinion. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />~*thailandchanihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10171731740204067889noreply@blogger.com